Well I have a Hoyt, and a Bowtech. Both are 2002 models. I have the vortec, and the patriot. I've had a problem with the hoyt, but not the bowtech. The cam on My vortec was all cockeyed and crooked. I got it fixed but it was a big hassle. Hoyt didn't want to help Me out.I've never had a problem with the patriot though. Its My target bow the hoyt is the hunting bow.