Well, I' ve been at it for about 33 years. I' ve seen a lot of people throw arrows. I' ve seen a lot of " Groups" on the targets from all levels of shooters. The truth is, we aren' t all the same. We all want to beable to shoot quarters. We all want to have every group the same. Some of us can actually do it... time after time. Some of us can do it with an occasional group and immediately forget the group that was 5 inch if you count the one arrow where you peeked or creeped.(but a lot of us forget that arrow) Then too, I' ve seen some world class(actual) archers make the worst shot I' ve ever seen on an animal. I' ve seen some archers that are absolutely great shots... but damn poor hunters. I' ve seen some people just come unglued when a little forky shows up but steady like a rock in front of a hundred gawkers with a state title on the line. We all strive for the quarter inch groups and on good nights we may have some. As long as we practice and try to maintain some proficiency so we can perform when we have to.. that' s all that matters. Don' t worry about Joes dime sized groups unless you want to be a champion.

Len, I' m sitting in a computer lab at Duke while my son does some homework. Did you guys go hunting today?