I tried my stand out this weekend and it is a dream. The one thing that I dont understand about the realtree viper is the the seat back does not fold, On all othe rvipers the back of the seat has a sewn in seam that allows you to fold the seat back in half and use the bungie on the seat to fold it to te seat bottom. this allows it to be out of the way when you climb. What I did was cut the stitching and pull out the foam for the back rest. I cut out 2 inches in the middle then placed the lower half back into the seat back. I then hand stitched across the fabric...once that was done I placed the top section back in and stitched the top back together and restitched in the bungie. If you look at the replacment seats at basspro.com or cabelas.com you will see what I am talking about. I hope all of that makes since......?? If not I may post up a pic of what I am talking about.

Oh yeah and let me say that the foot rest is a dream!!!! The bow hanger ....well i wont be taking it back into the woods with me. Its way too small to be effective, but then I didnt cost me anything. Definately buy the stand while it is at this great price