Lefty & c903,

Geeeezzzz guys, I hunt squirels at 80 for pete sake. Passed on pleanty of bucks over 35 yards. Would I take a long one? Who knows, put a booner in front of each of us standing still, with it' s head down, quartering away, 60 yards, no wind, lazer rangefinder, Deer 30, etc, etc. You will find out what you would do right then.

THE QUESTION WAS. COULD YOU PLEASE TELL YOUR SETUP WHEN YOU PREACH ETHICAL DISTANCE?

You must back up ethics with situations. That' s the difference between ethics and morals. Ethics apply to a situation, morals don' t they are constant. IMO that' s why we have an ethics problem. We preach but we don' t give info to back it up. BobCo19-65 gave an example and I can accept that. What about New/Young hunters look at it and say " but the chart says I can do this, see" . What about the guy adding to the thred with YEA 40' s my max! but he shoots a 30lb recurve with stone tiped arrows? If he doesn' t let us know his setup then we would all say " yea that' s about right"

Here is my last example from my elk hunt 2 years ago.

The rancher said that 300 yards was a " gimmee" . he went on to say that he shoots a hotrod Lazzaroni and regularily shoots coyotes at 500 yards with the same gun. The other hunter that was in camp said that 200 was his limit. He had never practiced over 200, was using a 30-06 remington semiauto with a 4x fixed scope. One guy is 50% different from the other! Some would say impossible that both could be right. If they had both just posted thier " Ethical Limit" who would be right. They both are. You can' t judge the situation ethically without looking at the variables.

PS Lefty. God gave us science to prove that the universe is to complex to be an accident.