oh yeh, man I hunted for 4 yrs before I killed my first deer with a bow.. back 1994 Oct something, I shot a 7 pt with my old Hoyt Raider and fat alum arrows, hit a branch in flight and deflected into his back bone and went 10 yds and died in front of me. I will never forget that or the first gun kill way back in 1990!! But Jeff has killed a deer every year he has been bowhunting and has killed multiple deer and a few nice bucks...pretty impressive..