A lot of guys on here were chatting about them last year and seemed to like them. Leveling system didn't seem to get any complaints. Some guys complained about the seats, but they just added a seat off their old summits or api's and problems solved. I keep threatening to buy one, but I'm the type that likes to see something and mess with it before I lay down the dough, and you just can't go look at those stands at cabelas or some other place. I may end up buying one soon though, just to try it out. I got their dvd last year, seems like a cool stand. I'd just like to see it in person first.