Sounds like some of you guys have almost no bucks on the property you hunt? That's a shame. On the property my dad and I hunt, we know of 10 bucks that are shooters. Half of them would go over 150 the other half would be between 130-150. 1 of those bucks has avoided us since 2003 when I filmed him as a 3 year old and then he was in the 160-170 range. My dad saw him the next year (2004) and he said he was in the 180s. Funny thing was my dads sights were off and he didn't know and he shot right over his back.Then my dad saw him in 2006 and said he had to be a 200 class TYPICAL. Believe it if you want, don't care if you don't, we saw him and no one else did. Not even the guys who hunt right next to our property. We have yet to get trail pictures of him or film him again, but we know he's still there because we have seen him. Now he's like 8, but he's still a GIANT! Hopefully he makes the mistake and walks in front of one of us while the other is filming, and we get him on camera and of course kill him. He's a tough old buck and he made the mistake once. Luckily for him, my dads sights were off and his bow was shooting high. We can only hope he makes that mistake again, but this time, one of us double lungs him.