contrary to last Sunday when i had a doe dodge an arrow today i finally got my first deer with a bow. It wasa doe from the same stand and about 3 feet from where i missed last weekend. Sorry hate to break man law but i didnt have a camera avaiable so no pics. She was a smaller than i thought. I guess the adrenaline rush i had added 20 lbs before the shot. she was 75 lbs.