nksmfamjp: Thanks for the advice. I found myself doing something similar with my bow, but it was still slipping off. I guess it might have something to due with trying to carry a backback, and summit climber, and a x-bow. I kinda felt like the michelin man. Especially when I jumped a 350+ pound russian boar (who was not very nice BTW)with all that going on. Needless to say running wasn't an option at that point.

Buckhunter1: Thanks for the review. I had one of those in my had at BPS and decided to put it down due to the extra $38 it was going to cost, but after wrestling with all my crap in the woods I think I should have. Maybe I should just try carring less.