I have a Bear Cheyenne. It was my brothers that he gave to me when he bought a new diamond, and it was his dads before it was mine. (Half brothers). Anyway it was the most expensive (to me)christmas gift I have ever gotten cuz I had to set it up still. But I have had it for a while now too and it has huge drop off but where i hunt there is no such thing as a shot over 20 yards.