Also... I noticed that my Iron Mace was extremely grip critical. There are plenty of different holds that will work... but you HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE TO be consistant... switch from a low wrist to a locked wrist to a dead palm and you'll have a triangle about 4x4x4 at 25 yards. My advice is to use a grip that you can get consistant EVERY SINGLE TIME. I shoot low wrist and pull into my palm... comfortable and consistant. Good luck.