i do alright ide say. for up here in maine anyways. if i want somethin i go buy it. i have my own house. two vehicles.......you get my point. i had to spend alot (barrow alot) to make a lot. it took me a while to get wher ei am but i also had some help, my dad had already established this business. some ppl say ah he walked right into it but i also bust my azz. i bet i could take 10 ppl to work w/ me on monday and 9 of them would quit by wed/thursday. when its hot its real hot cuz the crete makes its own heat and when its cold its real cold. its real dirty and nothin is light. nothin. even my frost wall forms are 75 lbs and they are only 4' 6bar. it def keeps you in shape but it makes you an old man fast. when i h=get up in the morning i cant touch my toes im so laimed up. it does keep you toned though. one thing i dont like about it is it makes you fore arms look way out of proportion to you biceps lol looks kinda weird. like popeye or somethin