well i dunno about that other crap but a year or so ago i benched 260 three times. for my hieght and weight (5'8" 165)thats better then avge. i only know this becayse my cousin is a persoanl trainer for golds gym and i was playin around on his stuff. i dont lift or anything, just work but he says w/ a reg. routine i could easily bench more.he syas ide need to be shown a moreproper technique???.....i dunno much about it though