im glad this forum is so helpful to a newbie like me, thanks again! im am reading everyones advice and it is appreciated greatly! i went to gander mountain and was holding a remington 700 and it felt good. not to heavy it came with a scope (not sure of magnification i didnt look at that). i think it was about 450-500 so the price was good. i also believe it was used. so one more question i know someone mentioned buying a used gun, what should i look for in a used gun, many like any wrong with the gun? so anyways i think that might be my gun, just need to save a little first. thanks again