You guys who range your animals befor eyou shoot them.....wow. I know there are some seasoned guys who say they do this every time.....and all I have to say is.....kudos. I've never done it.

Irange some trees "when I take my rangefinder".....but to be honest....I've gotten to where ....if I have to think about the distance....I'm probably not going to shoot. I shoot enough from 20yds to know what that looks like in the woods. The doe I shot last Monday (2nd one).....I pegged her at 23 yds....and held just a hair high on my intended POI. Elevation was great. If I'd thought she was 28yds....I wouldn't have shot.

If I thought I was going to take shots over 30 yds in the woods....I'd take my rangefinder, more. I've learned (the hard way) that I'm not great at those distances from a tree. So....I don't shoot that far.

If you don't know what 20yds looks like.....you need to range it "somehow". Ribbons will work great. If you do know what 20yds looks like.....you know it's likely a top pin shot....and I don't see the need for one in that instance.

Know your limitations.