Well one of my buddies uses this stuff similar to C'Mere Deer which is called Deer Co Cain. Its a liquid that you put on the ground by the base of a tree and the deer have about a 5 inch hole in the ground about 10 inches wide. All they are eating is dirt and roots! He took a huge doe the first day of the season and every time i go by there, there is always deer there. I just don't see it fair chase. Is it not baiting? Baiting is illegal in PA but i don't know what they consider baiting. I just can't bring myself to use that stuff or even hunt out of his stand when he tells me to.