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10-01-2008 | 06:51 PM

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sproulman

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From: PA.

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul

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ORIGINAL: RSB

What is obvious to any one that has the capacity of logical thought process and willing to look at all of the facts is that the deer herd in unit 2G is low even though the hunters have harvested fewer and fewer and fewer deer in that unit for about the past fifteen years. You are right that the over winter deer density numbers have declined, even the Village Idiot can figure that out. But the Village Idiot should also be able to figure out that when hunters are harvesting fewer and fewer and the numbers continue to decline it is time to suspect something other then hunting is causing the reduction.

The solution to the problem most certainly would not to harvest fewer deer in an area where the deer herd is already naturally reducing its own numbers. If the deer herd is reducing its own numbers of it nature is reducing the herd through natural causes it obviously because the area can’t support more deer under the present natural conditions.

You can believe anything you want and you can yammer around all you want. The USP can file law suits till Hell freezes and we could stop harvesting does or any deer in that unit but guess what. The facts are still the facts and there simply will not be more deer in that unit for more then the short term period of ideal conditions unless we have these lower deer number long enough for the habitat to improve to allow more deer. Nature simply will not support more deer then the food supply can support for more then short term periods. That isn’t the Game Commission’s rule that simply the LAWS of NATURE.

If you can’t accept and live with the Laws of Nature then there really isn’t much anyone can say to help you. But, one day you too will fall into the laws of nature, as will we all, then I suspect you will know how things in nature can’t be stopped from taking their course regardless of our wishes.
In the mean time though you go ahead and keep telling people your nonsense and I will continue to preach the realities of nature because I believe people with real wisdom will figure out who is providing the real facts consistent with what nature allows.

Now perhaps since you figure you are smarter then nature you can explain, why hunters harvest fewer and fewer and yet the deer number keep declining in unit 2G if it isn’t from habitat related influences on the recruitment rate. Then explain why hunters can harvest three and four times as many does in the unit that makes up and surrounds the city of Pittsburgh for over fifteen years and the deer populations there can continue to increase if that isn’t a result of habitat that can sustain more deer. Isn’t that something when they can sustain harvests of over ten deer per square mile around the city streets of Pittsburgh for fifteen year or more while the big woods areas of this state can’t sustain harvests even half that high over the same time period? Explain that if you really want to prove your point.

And once again, yes it is because of having more deer in one area verses the other area. We know that, so what we want YOU to do is explainwhy.

Explain why hunters can harvest two to four times as many does in the metropolitan units of 2A, 2B and 2D then they can in the big woods forested areas year after year for more then a decade if it isn’t habitat related and it isn't habitat that influences and controls the fawn birth and survival rates?

R.S.Bodenhorn

rsb,can you explain why on SGL252 ,i believe its over 15 miles that you can hardly see a DEER .

best HABITAT you will ever see, corn, acorns, wheat,apples, water ponds,heavy woods with berries and cover.ITS SOMETHING TO SEE.

also at rockview prison,there are deer all over, HABITAT is not as good or diverse as SGL252,only difference isITS PRIVATELAND only open to public on lottery and CONTROLLED number of hunters.

sproul has spoken

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