THREE OF US TOOK TWO 6 POINTERS & A DANDY 8 PT.NO NEED TO HUNT THE DEEP CANYONS.WE HEARD 95% OF SHOTS NEAR THE ROADS,THOSE DEER LIKE THE SOUND OF THE PUMPS .I SAY HUNT THE ROADS ,SOUNDS A BIT SKIDDISH,BUT THAT HOW WE GOT THEM.