I can only address my area of 5C,where the vast majority of land is hunted hard even though a lot of the land is posted. Although I have no stats to support it ,I would say the herd is down by 30-40%. But,at the same time it would not surprise me if the herd was increasing in other areas of 5c where the herd is protected by city or borough ordinances that prohibit hunting,

But, in any case, if the herd was being managed based on the true carrying capacity of the habitat ,then we should have at least 35-40 DPSM,but we don't.