I am certainly not trying to or meaning to deminish the deer. It's a great buck no matter what he scores. He just doesn't have great tine length and my first impression was a mid 150's buck. It's sounds like there is a decent chance of us finding out for sure what he does score and then we won't have to conjecture about it. Once again let me say for the record that I am no wiz at guessing scores so let me reitterate the fact that my misjudgement, if any, should not be mistaken for disrespect for the size of the animal.