i once watched my buddy beat the living crap out of his rattling antlers (3rd week of september) and a little 6 point came in from across a field. that little buck was fired up, he was grunting with almost every step. my buddy proceeded to shoot it in the butt, but that's another story.[/align] [/align] so, i've seen it work. i try it especially towards the end of a morning hunt. what's it going to hurt to try.[/align]