I normally go about 16-18 feet from the bottom of my stand. I have a 20 foot rope i tie to my bow and the other end to the rail on my climber. When the rope starts tog et tight i normally stop there. Sometimes i will go higher if there is not enough cover and sometimes i will stay lower but that is my normal height. It is plenty high. I have been up 30 feet before and it was only because the only good tree was in a ravine and i was hunting deer on a hill in front of me about 10 feet below my eye level. 30 feet up in a tree is a long way and you could never get a good double lung hit from that high.