thanks for replying guys. yes it was the blue sabot with the 200 gr. BTW the superglide doesn't glide so super, but still easy thanbefore. Semisane thats what i thought too, but wasn,t for sure. anyhow, i built a shooting viseat work today just to take any error from me out of the equation. i'll try again next weekend. oh yeah i use pyrodex, should i try something else?