For many years there have been clownish doomsdayers who were antideer. Guys who were ecoextremists and preached that the deer too large herd was on the cusp of destroying life in Pa as we know it, and we HAD to take extreme reduction actions immediately!... Funny thing is, the deer herd multiplied since thenby leaps and bound since and the predictions still never came to pass. Some infamous characters, like the joker than got himself thrown out of the game commission for his "over extreme" views. Cant remember the cats name.... On the tip of my tongue too.. Latham maybe?