I have three of their hang on stands with their 16 foot climbing sticks. The climbing stands they make are a little heavy and I just dont like them much. But, the hang ons are great, I hunt on private land and hang them before season and leave them all season. They are big and have comfortable seats, best of all Wal-Mart has them and they ar not very expensive, Ill not use another brand of hang on or sticks again.