like MGH said, once our rifle season starts, you might as well pack it in, grab a rifle, or pray for good luck....on most land...some land that truely isnt touched you can still see deer, but i dont know where to find land like that lol....

honestly ive found stand hunting unproductive after 10am or so....unless you can setup so other guys spook them to you...ive done well in funnels on saturdays and the opener...any other day theres usually not enough pressure to move them...ive all about quit stand hunting in rifle season....i'll pick up the rifle and drive with a small group from 10 or 11am till dark...if someone isnt getting the deer moving, chances are VERY great that you wont see them.

same with out late season...its bow and flintlock only....same drill...i get together with the crew and do some flintlock drives....occassionally i'll take stand, still hunt, track in fresh snow etc...but find it pretty unproductive...

so once the rifles come out, i join em...just because bowhunting would be VERY VERY tough where i hunt...running, alert deer are all youd likely see if you were so lucky....