I love savage guns, but in the future I will steer away from the package deals, because the scopes aren't worth it.
Yeah I had heard as much as well. But as it turned out I couldn't find anything with or without a scope for the price I got the Savage 111 - $330. Well, except for the bottom end Remington but that involved a rebate, seemed to have a worse scope on it, and 9 out of 10 gun owners seem to agree the entry level Savages are a much better firearm.