Darn it! I can't remember the cartridge name but I believe Iver Johnson? or Universal made a M-1 carbine variant in it. Cases do predate the military .223 by quite some time. AH HA! might have found it or a close cousin, 5.7mm Johnson/Spitfire but I don't have the specs on the cartridge. But it's .14mm bigger. Here's anotherone I dug up .22/30 Carbine, I believe Plainfield made some M-1 Carbines in it before Iver-Johnson toke over.

Edited by - BigEd on 01/23/2002 01:01:36

Edited by - BigEd on 01/24/2002 17:49:13