i know Jeff, i know....we can debate stuff like this till we all turn blue in the face and blood coming from our ears....in the end, we all know a 200lb deer isnt exzactly tough to bring down...different strokes for different folks....im also searching for a broadhead that is practically bullet proof...my muzzys will do for this season...after that im switching....do i need a head that is practically bullet proof? no...do i need to shoot a heavy arrow(not that mine are exactly heavy) no...but its my prefrence...i wanna find a nice balancing point between weight, speed, energy, cutting diameter etc...while still having a very tough arrow and broadhead...oh ya....2 dream animals to hunt are grizzly/brown bear and cape buffalo with a bow....dont ask why...i cant give much of a reason and dont have a death wish...just a country boy with a dream lol...

heres the Ashby studies...

http://tradgang.com/ashby/

maybe Bob has other ones he can post...its raining...i dont have class today...got minimal work to be doing...im gunna do some reading...