-for me at least. I shot some last weekend w/open sights trying to get ready for elk season. I don't consider myself the best marksman so this was about as good as I think I could do. I've shot these size groups w/scopes before but never open sights before. Measures 1 1/8 CTC
100 Yards
700ML Open Sights
80g 777 2f
.504 460gBullshop
Veggie Wad
Kleanbore Primer
I'm really takin' to this conical shootin'