I shoot them in 3D shoots because they are blazing fast and flat as a pancake, I won't shoot them at an animal because I noticed that when I shoot one next to my maxima hunters, they penetrate about half as much into the target. That is a huge difference in Kinetic energy. I want all the help I can get on a 40 yard, adrenaline rushed, windy day shot that I can
P.S. Mine chrono 360+ through my iron mace at 72#.....