Ok thanks for the info. I'm not into sitting in tree stands long ether maybe in the am, but not for long times.

So in where I hunt in Or. I haven't heard any Bulls or Cows. Will it start to pick up? I was trying to bugle and cow call through the days I was hunting, but nothing. Ha I would be ok with just hearing a bull bugle back.

It was funny the friend that I was with has been bow hunting and elk hunting for years. Well I went into the woods one way and he went in the other way. Once I got to a nice creek and open area I bugled and sat and waited. About 5 mins later I heard cow calls coming at me. It was my friend he came up to me and asked if I heard that bull bugle ha ha i told him it was me and he was suprised to hear that I could bugle.

So I'm going this sunday or monday morning. So what I've heard is I should just try to find some feeding areas and creeks and try to get one to bugle and try to find him. Thats kind of what I was thinking but didn't know.

So the south facing hills are best: like new clear cuts and things like that?

Sorry for the newb ?'s, but thanks for the help. Those 2 days out were so much fun I can't wait for monday.