Our ML season isnt until dec.27 -30 so im just buying a bunch of different bullets and sabots and testing them out. I love muzzleloading but sometimes the thought of cleanup and swabbing between shots at the range, and loading, and the mess in the kitchen after cleanup, just made me pass up alot of trips to the gun club with my buddies. Blackhorn has made it really fun again for me personally. I feel like i load just as fast as my varmit rifle.................