true cz, but isn't that the reason for the forum - to relate experiences and knowledge? Like RL stated, a 168 TSX or 180 Partition is pretty darn good.
If our boy wants to try them then let him have at it. He says he is curious what his rifle will do with that load. And we are basically telling him that, except for point blank, a good 165 or 180 will do a better job.