there are alot of 15 foot ladder stands out there that people are using very succesfully. I personnely like to be between 20 and 25 feet up. I also have the perfect tree that is only about 12 feet up, but it offers me the best concealment I could ever ask for. I will be guiding my lady out this year and she will no way clime up a tree like I do, so I am going to have to be considerate of her ability, rather than a perfered hight.