RE: 270
FIrst off the package deal scopes suck. Its the same thing you can get for $30.00 in the bubble pack at Wal-Mart. Any of the rifles you mentioned will fill the purpose perposed just fine. I would suggest shouldering each and taking the one that gives a better natural point of aim for you. As for the Mossberg I have several friends with them and they are a bare bones machine but do a good jop at what they do. You may want to entertain the thought of one of them so you have extra money for a scope if things are tight.