I got this fella in camera the year before last and I saw him twice last bowseason. Both times in a CRP field right at dark and he was untouchable. Those were the only two times I saw him while hunting, but his height and mass are unmistakebale. I have family that hunts (deer drives) the area around where he was seen and he escaped them once, SO Iamvery posative he is still around this year. He is just impossible to pattern let alone see during daylight hours. Just hope his horomones make him slip up at some point. At any rate I never have a problem getting out of bed in the morning knowing he is around.