My borhter had one stolen a long time ago. He shot a great buck this thing was huge. He was the only one that had shot that morning he was using a NEF 20 guage, shot the thing 3 times, one shot blew off the jaw. one other shot took out the lower part of the right leg, andthe last one through the lungs,yes the buck was running full bore. He yelled for me to help track it, there was no losing this deer with the amount of blood. we walked right to it and the kid that was there happend to my 3rd cousin or somn like that, my brother told him that he had shot the deer, hes like so what I found it after i shot it to put it down. He never fired a round, he was using a 44 carbineor something like that. I told my brother to let the jackass have it, its not worth getting shot over it.