I'm switching over to the Muddy Outdoors arm. The one thing that bothered me about the HCC was the flex in the tree bracket when I had a lot of gear on the arm, and it was extended out pretty far. If you didn't watch it, it would "bounce". The arm itself was rock solid, but the way that "L" bracket worked it put all the weight of that arm + camera on that one spot and I could watch the bracket flex. I was going to build something else to replace that and use the arm with it, but figured I'd just try the Muddy out instead. The new arm just showed up today and I'll be putting a Bogen 501HDV head on it soon. I'll let you know know the results.