Nope I just like talking about them! Yeah I shot two bucks with the rage. One shoulder hit and one deflected off a rib. Shoulder hit was my fault. Itcurled the tip of the broadhead. The rib shot was1/4 away shotat 20 yards on a 4.5 year old buck. My arrowhit the rib and dida 90 degree turn and went up into the shoulder. The buck grab the arrow and pulled it out. Trackedand jumped bothbucks and continued to watch them throughout the season. Shot one of the bucks during riffle season (the one I shot in the shoulder) Never had a problem with Muzzys going through ribs or shoulders. I changed because I read the forums, wish I never did. Rage might work on those small deer from south. But you shootbucks that go around 220-300 poundson the hoof, you need penetration.It is a good gut shot broadhead and thats it.