ORIGINAL: rick64
ORIGINAL: NEW61375
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche
Problem is that lots of folks aren't buying your explanations once they start understanding the big picture. See my recent post in the sporting dogs section.
Good points and do you know what the main two anti groups (HSUS & PETA)other primary target is..............everyone's beloved BOWHUNTING.Hunters won't be so quick to buddy up and help them ban that will they, but the groundwork is being laid now friends take the blinders off....initially reform sounds great but we are not the only ones involved....now there are people involved(with underlying motives)who truly want to "reform" hunting for us, it is no longer just us hunters trying to reform our pasttime.
Your stating the obvious and just make up anything else that fits your agenda.I expect PETA & HSUS to oppose any form of hunting.
The shocker is a hunting org.(VHDA)standing arm in arm with PETA & HSUS to oppose lifting the ban on Sunday hunting in VA. Then turn around and ask for support from the same guys that they dumped on.
Typical response(Deer chasers do no wrong):All the problems are because ofthe Warden's/law enforcement, DGIF, Landowners, Bowhunters, Stillhunters, SAC, Tech. committe, VT,........hope I didn't leave anybody out.
The right to retrieve law is very specific and yes, often abused, but the fact that it is not enforced is even worse. If you drive on someone elses property to get dogs or anything other than walk on with no firearmyou are breaking the law, write them a ticket, fine them something.
Check the highlighted area rick I definitely don't believe dog hunters do no wrong and have plenty of years of hunting in VA to know that sometimes the answer tosome problems is obvious. So if I'm stating the obvious that to me is not bad. What I can't wrap my brain around is how you guys feel if we make new laws everything will be better when you already know those laws won't be enforced any more diligantly than current laws. Nowthat to me is obvious but keep putting words in peoples mouths and assuming you know what we feel because we are typical "deer chasers", you couldn't be more off in your assessment of me.
In fact I never said to support Hokieman or his organization, quite the contrary I looked into his group and many things they support and oppose and it isn't for me because I do they think if they want help they would help other hunters. Here's a link to that thread(somewhere in the middle)which I'm sure you remember rick.
RE: Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance
I don't think we view it too much differently as far as the big picture(from the thread mentioned above):
ORIGINAL: rick64
That makes sense to me, in return for the privilege of being able to retrieve their dogs the penalty should be more severe for breaking the law.
I think we all agree, ifall Conservation Officers were more aggressive with the laws that are already on the books, this wouldn't be as big an issue.
original:NEW61375
I would agree with that. I do feel in many areas we need more officersand they also need to be actively enforcing the laws.
Anyway, this is why I stay out of these threads anymore, tons of mis-communication rather than communication.
Good luck this season everyone.