my stands are around 20ft. in the air. I was referring to in my last comment that from 26 yards to 30 yards, my bow set at 65lbs. shooting XX78 Aluminum arrows drops wicked. The 3-4 yards difference from 26-30. I shoot a Savage Pendulum sight which is a great sight. I don't usually have to worry about how far they are, no guessing what pin to shoot with a pendulum. Just aim and shoot. I can shoot on the ground with same pin out to 30 yards also. Most of my shots are in close, usually 15 yards to 25 yards out.