Ed from No. Illinois checking in. I hunt nothing but public land in Illlinois. One placehas a8 pt. or better rule. I'll shoot a doe instead of a small buck so I have an uphill battle. Did not shoot a buck last year, but there's always that chance of shooting a kong buck. I may get to upper Mich.( a 2.5 year old is fair game as that's a good buck for up there ). Good luck team.