I use a Savage pendulum sight, if you use one of these sights they work great out to 25-26 yards. If the deer is out to 30 yards you are going to shoot under the deer, they really drop that much with just 3-4 yards. I don't like to sight in high to shoot dead on a long distances, I have done that before, and then you hit high at close ranges and shoot over the deer, or hit them high in the back. Most of my shots are within 20 yards so I want it sighted in dead on out to 25 yards. I know a lot of guys will not agree, but it works great for me. I still use aluminum arrows and both my bows are older models, 1988 H-500 Oneida Eagle, and a Hoyt Grand Slam Eclipse. Just my opinion guys and gals, don't linch me now.