tom- i have 99% burris products. two of which are the 3.5-10x40 illuminated ball plex that i have on my knight master hunter and my long range hunter. the ball plex is nice if you want to mess with it but i don't think that they are really worth it. to bad burris doesn't get any credit for that reticle idea and nikon steals all the hype when it's the new kid.

i have a 8-32 sig mil dot, 4-16 mil dot, 4-16 ball plex and maybe one or two more that i can't remember. in all honesty i'll never use them how they are intended. heck if a guy figures his max point blank range that ought to be good enough for all practical purposes.