I know what you mean,I just traded one of my rifles(a Weatherby) for a new Great Plains 62&quot; takedown 'B' model recurve.So. American rosewood and birdseye maple riser with tonkin bamboo limbs 55#@ 28&quot;.Man she is really smooth-and fast too.I've been thinking a lot about Schaffer silvertips lately-then again I just bought a longbow 2 weeks ago-what was that number for archaholics again? Cam <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>