I am starting to know that feeling David. Seeing a 16" wide 8 point on my properties is becoming rare. I am not sure what caused the sudden change, between the new county jail being built on the border of my honey hole, my honey hole being timbered in Jan. of 2007, an animal shelter, and three other buildings being built on the edge of my property, dynamite blasting on the other side of my property, ect.. Heck, around 3 weeks of glassing the soybean fields almost every eveningand I have seen a total of two bucks