I have been seeing bucks almost daily.......sadly, i have 2 still in velvet that were hit by vehicles....neither one of them were in rut...tarsal glands still clean.....necks were small...the one was an 8 point, GOOD mass, 2.5 yrs. old., the other was 1.5 4 point......hopefully the rest of them will be in the woods alive, which i have been seeing, like i said, almost daily...