i have a 25ft rope to pull my gear up and ive climbed with the bow and gear hanging from the rope a few times...didnt like it....but it was the only climbable tree in the area i wanted to hunt and it was WIDE open...heck, i think i was even dumb enough to adjust the top portion of my stand 1 notch tighter to level the stand because the tree thinned out...to top it off that tree was on the edge of the hill...about 200-300ft down before it was flat again...awesome view...because of the wind and location that was the only tree i had available..

usually right around 18-22ft