Len if you were' nt have way across the country I' d probably be pounding on your door . By the way I' ve got my mavric recurve shoot' n good useing a trophy taker , it likes that rest and is alittle quieter with it than the zerro effect I had on it . I' ve got to get it shoot' n dead nut' s before season as the guy' s in Pa where I hunt say its the only bow I can kill a deer with up there , they love their darton' s .